Curse

pumpkin pie · May 16, 2009, 02:50 PM // 14:50

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Originally Posted by hallomik

So, how do you introduce the ability to make changes to your character without bringing the chaos of constant changes?

No chaos can come with name change and style change or sex change in the game, in my humble opinion. How can there be when everyone's avatar already look like everyone elses' avatar. Do you know how many times i heard the phrase "look my twin" (or something along that line) in the game? Chaos, I doubt it very much.

Introduction of Real life money for the makeover packages and repeatedly having to pay for extra makeovers is not the perfect solution if you insist there are chaos as you describe it, Arena Net can simply set a limit to how many time a player can change their character's name in a month.

I have 3 PvP characters, I change their name constantly. There's never any chaos or confusion there. My friends still manage to find me.

manager · May 16, 2009, 02:58 PM // 14:58

I believe that there is already a 30 day limit to name changes.

MithranArkanere · May 16, 2009, 03:03 PM // 15:03

He meant that he deleted and create new characters with different names.

No one would pay constantly to change character names, and no one can, since each account is limited to a name change per month.

manager · May 16, 2009, 03:09 PM // 15:09

I know what he meant, i was replying to this :

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Arena Net can simply set a limit to how many time a player can change their character's name in a month.

SpiritThief · May 16, 2009, 03:15 PM // 15:15

I just wish a simple thing. That we could dye our hair with dye or something. Won't pay for just a hair color change.

Commander Ryker · May 16, 2009, 03:30 PM // 15:30

It's funny to see everyone bitch about paying for the make over when way back when everyone said they would be happy to pay if only anet would put this in the game.

Enon · May 16, 2009, 03:50 PM // 15:50

I agree with hallomik. You shouldn't be able to change your looks constantly, because it would indeed ruin the identity of your character. However, that only goes for gender, face and skin color. Hairstyle and hair color should be able to get changed for a fairly high fee or via a pretty difficult quest.

Gender, face and skin color shouldn't, for obvious reasons hallomik stated. Nonetheless, the tickets are a bit overpriced. Especially if you take into account that you almost always need to change your name if you're changing your gender.

Also, it would have been nice if Anet gave everybody a free makeover ticket (preferably customized to a character), since this makeover brings need combinations with it.

haggus71 · May 16, 2009, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

It's funny to see everyone bitch about paying for the make over when way back when everyone said they would be happy to pay if only anet would put this in the game.

Lol, they said they'd be glad to pay for extra storage, too.

I agree with Hall. It was best for at least a little continuity of character. Otherwise, I could imagine being in a guild where everyone was changing every 3 days. "Wasn't your name _________?" "Yeah, but now it's ______. I didn't like it. "But you changed it three days ago!"

Let's not support the ADD generation that much.

Longasc · May 16, 2009, 05:24 PM // 17:24

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Originally Posted by Cool Down

I told myself that i wouldnt pay money for something like that.

But then i thought about it... and thought a little more.. then when i couldnt sleep i bought the extreme makeover and a name change...

It was a good night's sleep

CONGRATULATIONS!

You just experienced how "Free to Play" meets "Real Money Transactions/Trading" works.

F2P RMT works exactly as you described it.

P.S.:
Is the rather high price tag for a mere name change not preventing constant switching already?

And if Sheik Osama wants to change his name all the time, well, money for ANet, he will have his reasons for sure.

Lure. Temptation. Greed. "It does not cost much."

It does not require many players to do this. A few % finance the rest of the playerbase.

Laraja · May 16, 2009, 05:26 PM // 17:26

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Originally Posted by Nanood

I have bought an extreme makeover for a character nearly 4 years old that I that couldn't bear to reroll and do over. I would and did pay money for that. I deleted a 3 year old ele that i had never liked the face i chose but would have kept her knowing this was coming up. I would pay for that too. I am pretty sure it's a money making exercise and thats fine with me. People have been calling for it. Anet would like some money. It's a win win as I see it.

I agree.

My older son had a character on my GW account until finally he got his own computer and copies of GW, but he left me with his big ugly warrior dude that had a lot of experience, elites, titles and such. I almost deleted him, but I thought a high level warrior might come in handy at some point. Then came the extreme makeover update. YAY! He got a sex change and name change and is now a cool warrior woman.

I also have regular makeover credits and I having a ton of fun with them.

Although I can understand why some people are irritated that they have to pay... I mean, it's better for everyone if it were free or a one time charge, but if you've taken any college level business classes, you would understand why Anet is doing what they are doing. You still may not like it, but you'd understand it.

And, you are not forced to buy the makeover credits. They are entirely optional.

manager · May 16, 2009, 06:04 PM // 18:04

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Originally Posted by Longasc

CONGRATULATIONS!

You just experienced how "Free to Play" meets "Real Money Transactions/Trading" works.

F2P RMT works exactly as you described it.

P.S.:
Is the rather high price tag for a mere name change not preventing constant switching already?

And if Sheik Osama wants to change his name all the time, well, money for ANet, he will have his reasons for sure.

Lure. Temptation. Greed. "It does not cost much."

It does not require many players to do this. A few % finance the rest of the playerbase.

P.S.:
Is the rather high price tag for a mere name change not preventing constant switching already?

And if Sheik Osama wants to change his name all the time, well, money for ANet, he will have his reasons for sure.

We get it. You have found out how microtransactions work. Do you need to spam it on all the threads now?

A11Eur0 · May 16, 2009, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by manager

Uh..you aren't paying the time it takes for a player to change his/her toon hairstyle. You're paying the time that A-Net put on making the hairstylist NPC.

But don't let this "simple" difference get in the way of your dumb trolling!

Yeah because 5 million accounts with 4+ characters each. Let's say 10% of those characters get makeovers. that's 2 million makeovers at $2 each. $4 million. How long did it take to make the NPC?

15 minutes per haircut, 2 million haircuts...that's 30 million minutes.

Dee dee dee.

Entirely optional, yes, I agree. But they're also entirely overpriced.

pumpkin pie · May 17, 2009, 03:25 AM // 03:25

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Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

It's funny to see everyone bitch about paying for the make over when way back when everyone said they would be happy to pay if only anet would put this in the game.

many players have said they don't want to pay for in game item as well, i am too lazy to look through all the threads regarding storage request, but don't make it sound like everyone have agree to it and are regreting now because I sure didn't say I want to pay for in game item.

MithranArkanere · May 17, 2009, 01:05 PM // 13:05

I said I would pay for things like a Xunlai Marketplace pack or a Stylist pack, that is, ONCE. A once time feature unlock payment. Not for every single time I want to use something.

If I wanted that, I would be playing any of those blood-sucking micropaid games.

headlesshobbs · May 17, 2009, 04:49 PM // 16:49

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

I said I would pay for things like a Xunlai Marketplace pack or a Stylist pack, that is, ONCE. A once time feature unlock payment. Not for every single time I want to use something.

If I wanted that, I would be playing any of those blood-sucking micropaid games.

That's exactly how I feel about this issue.

Perfected Shadow · May 18, 2009, 04:25 AM // 04:25

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You shouldn't be able to change your looks constantly, because it would indeed ruin the identity of your character.

lol. Am I the only one that thinks there's something screwed up with this?!?
I sure as hell don't care about the identity of anyone's character. If you don't want to 'ruin the identity of your character', sorry gotta lol again, then don't change your looks constantly. Why stop others from wanting to 'ruin the identity' of their characters? (OTHERS THAT WANT TO CHANGE WHAT THEY SEE ON THE SCREEN AND DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ROLE-PLAYING GARBAGE REASONS)

let's see if caps are blocked, been away from guru long time

pamelf · May 18, 2009, 08:28 AM // 08:28

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Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

It's funny to see everyone bitch about paying for the make over when way back when everyone said they would be happy to pay if only anet would put this in the game.

I wanted it in game, and said I was happy to pay for it and consequently did.

I think it was a great update. My only gripe is that Anet still insists on making Australians pay in GBP.

Ebony Shadowheart · May 18, 2009, 02:37 PM // 14:37

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Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

It's funny to see everyone bitch about paying for the make over when way back when everyone said they would be happy to pay if only anet would put this in the game.

Yup, yup.

I remember reading through the whine thread in Sardelac on these.

"We want more storage"
"We want a hair stylist"
"We want to be able to change our names"
blah blah blah.

At that point paying for it was ok with them, but now they're too good to pay for it. (Not everyone, just most) Go figure.

Personally, I have no issues paying for it if I want to use it. I figure I'd have to spend $10 to get a new character slot to make a new character anyway. At least this way I can change what my char looks like without losing all my titles and stuff, if I really want to. Win - win for me.

Mordakai · May 18, 2009, 03:14 PM // 15:14

If it was 10 makeovers for $10, would anyone be complaining?

It's like Groucho Marx says, "We already determined what kind of woman you are. Now we are just negotiating the price."

Pharael · May 18, 2009, 09:07 PM // 21:07

Anet gave you all what you wanted and you still whinge and moan. Be grateful, of you don't like then fine but don't start whining to everyone else.